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Malaysian Premier Abdullah Ahmad Badawi indicated Friday he could step down next March, saying he had not decided whether to stand in ruling party leadership elections to be held then.
Abdullah spoke after an emergency meeting of the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO), held amid speculation he would be forced to quit ahead of a planned transition to his deputy Najib Razak in mid-2010.
The embattled premier said that UMNO internal polls scheduled for December would now be postponed until March, and that he would make an announcement in the next few weeks over whether he would bid for the top job.
“I have not made any decision as far as this particular point is concerned,” he said. “The decision is mine, you can go on guessing. As far as I’m concerned I love the party.”
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Abdullah admitted that several members of UMNO’s Supreme Council were pushing for a speedy transition of power, but he said the policy-making body agreed with the decision to shift the party elections.
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| Cardinal | 144000 |
| Ordinal | 144000th |
| Factorization | 27 × 32 × 53 |
| Binary | 100011001010000000 |
| Hexadecimal | 23280 |
A Real Babel ?
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Recounting the story of the discovery of the Astronomical Equation, from its very beginning. It came from the story of Babel in the book of Genesis.
Interested readers may put the matter in context by first visiting Astronomical Enigma and/or Stonehenge Equation (and Nibiru) It would be appreciated if the reader would reserve judgement until he/she has read and understood the following.. It is a detective story with a difference. The fabled Tower of Babel is still with us, and it tells us things we did not previously know about the Solar System. Discovered by the writer in 1980. Story is in two pages skip to page two ? |
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I suppose it really started in 1977 when the door bell chimed. There, clutching bags and Bibles, stood two ladies from the local group of Jehovah’s Witnesses. We all know the joyful feeling we get when we open the door to see two silver haired, smiling faces, holding books and leaflets. I was no different. On that occasion I decided to argue, though it was so long ago I do not remember the details. Only one detail sticks in my mind, something one of them said. ‘Why not read it for yourself ?’That seemed to me to be quite a reasonable suggestion, so I did.
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I didn’t get very far into it before I came across the story of the tower of Babel. It caught my interest because it seemed to be out of place in the narrative. It is placed smack in the middle of a genealogy and sticks out like a sore thumb, as if some scribe had dropped his papers and picked them up in the wrong order.It was already known to me that the chapter and verse divisions in the Bible are a modern convention, so I allowed myself to view the context of chapters ten and eleven of the book of Genesis as one continuous story. In fact it is all genealogy, apart from verses one through nine of chapter eleven, and these relate the Babel story. Again, I noticed the story was apparently misplaced in time as well, since, going back to chapter ten, verse ten, we see that Babel was part of Nimrod’s kingdom.‘The beginning of his kingdom was Babel…’ (Ch 10 v 10)I had to ask myself why had the ancient scribe misplaced the story of the construction of Babel. Was it an accident? Perhaps not. Perhaps it was a deliberate ploy to attract attention? Certainly it had that effect, it attracted mine.It seemed to me to be saying ‘Please take notice, here is something important.’ I experienced that feeling, though logic, and the view of experts, told me otherwise. The experts all said that Babel was a Babylonian ziggurat, though they never give their reasoning. Perhaps they think that any rational answer is better than confessing ignorance. There were many Babylonian ziggurats built, long after the time context of the Biblical Babel. Why would a Bible writer include mention of just one such ziggurat, when there were many built ? In the context of the Bible, the tower was built before the confusion of tongues and the scattering of the people. It follows that it was built before the time of Nimrod, who founded his kingdom on it.Nimrod was second generation after Noah stepped out of the famous ark onto the slopes of mount Ararat. If we accept the context of the story, Nimrod was the son of Cush, who was the son of Ham, who was one of Noah’s three sons who took passage on the ark. (Gen. 10, verses 6 & 8 ) It follows that the tower was built within two generations, and even if we allow for longevity, the construction was started, at most, within one century of the famous flood.
In the context of the narrative, it was long before the rise of Babylon. The experts place Babel in Babylon, despite the contextual anachronism, because of the similarity in phonetics of the two words. But the word ‘Babel’ has no linguistic or etymological connection to the word ‘Babylon’. The Witnesses seemed to think it was a pagan temple. As it turned out, it seems that both were wrong. |
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Another problem area was found in chapter eleven, verse two, where the authorized version says :- “…as they journeyed From the East.” The sequence of the narrative is quite easy to follow, there should be no cause for great dispute. When Noah and his family stepped from the ark, they were the only living souls on Earth. They stayed in the area of Ararat for a while, and then set out in a westerly direction, to explore their new world. Mount Ararat is in Turkey, so traveling from the east would mean they were moving towards the west. That is to say they would be moving towards Europe, not towards Babylon, which was in the other direction. (actually it wasn’t, Babylon did not exist as a nation at that time. All the Earth was of one speech and the people one, according to the text) I concluded that Babel was not a Babylonian ziggurat, and must therefore be something else. |
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By this time I was well and truly hooked.
It was more than enough to cause me to read with closer interest. Soon other anomalies presented themselves, and I found myself drawn into a fascinating Biblical world. My initial curiosity soon led to a full investigation. I followed clues which led me to discover the maths reported in detail on the other pages. (“An Astronomical Enigma”, and/or “Stonehenge Equation”. ) I kept an open mind, or tried to, and was willing to accept the Bible on its own terms.My approach was to say, ‘O.K. The Bible is myth, but let us accept it, let’s accept the context, and see where it leads.’ The idea was, of course, that if the Bible was myth then accepting it would produce no valid result. If I were to base logic and reasoning on Biblical clues, and if those clues were not real, then quite obviously, I would not expect real results. The fact that I did obtain real results came as something of a shock, but more of that later.The first thing I did was to draw up a list of all the things I could that concerned Babel, along with a fresh translation of the text. The translation I made with the aid of a concordance, and common sense, I am no expert on Hebrew.I knew that Hebrew words had many nuances of meaning, just like English words, and the exact meaning chosen by the King James translators, or any others for that matter, would depend on the expectations and religious views of the translators.For example, it is well known that there is no Hebrew word that can be directly translated as ‘God’. The Hebrew uses the word ‘Elohim’ which is plural and literally means ‘strong ones’ or ‘mighty ones’. Chapter one verse one of Genesis actually says that the heavens were created by ‘Elohim’. |
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Perhaps, before we go further, I should present the reader with my alternative translation to the Babel story.It is much the same as the King James version, I have merely allowed myself to explore some of the nuances of meaning in both Hebrew and English.It should not trouble the reader that I am not an expert on Hebrew, if my translation is wrong, then it does not matter.A wrong translation will lead nowhere. Only a correct translation will yield positive results. The reader might like to assess the accuracy of the translation later, when the results of the investigation are considered.The chapter and verse references are just that, for ease of reference, they mean nothing of themselves and should be ignored when reading the text.
The translation that follows should not be seen as authoritative, for the most part it is derived from the alternative meanings that can be found in all languages. The particular sense of meaning that emerges is just one of a range that are possible from the semantics of the passage. If critical experts disagree with the translation, then I can do no more than point to the reasoning already expressed. If it is wrong, it will lead nowhere. |
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Genesis Chapter Eleven 1) And the whole Earth was of one language. United. 2) And it came to pass, as they journeyed westward, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. 3) And they said one to another, go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick and stone and pitch for mortar. 4) And they said , Go to, let us build us a town and a place of pillars whose top elevation, or plan, may connect with the heavens: and let it be for a memorial to our name, lest we be scattered across the earth and forgotten. 5) And the Mighty Ones came down, to see the town, and the place of pillars, which the children of men were building. 6) And the Mighty Ones said, Look, the people are one, and they have all one language: and this they begin to do: Now nothing will stand in their way, they can do anything they can imagine. 7) Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand each other. 8) So the Mighty Ones scattered them across the Earth, and they stopped building the town. 9) Therefore is the name of it called The Gate of Strength, or the Gate of God, because the Mighty Ones did there confound the language of all the earth and from thence did the Mighty Ones scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. |
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It is worthwhile drawing attention to verse two, which claims that they ‘journeyed’. Now it matters not, for the moment, which direction they were moving in. The point I would wish to bring out is that this was a smallish group of people, on the move as one united body. It was not a global population of many billions, as might be inferred from words like ‘The whole Earth’. A truly global population would not be considered as being capable of journeying as a united body. The context refers to a smallish group of people who, because of their unique circumstances, were the only people in the world, and could therefore be described accurately as ‘The whole Earth’. pppp After the confusion of tongues and the scattering, the narrative jumps back to chapter ten verse ten, where it is reported that one section of the fragmented society under the leadership of Nimrod, established a kingdom centered on Babel, while the others were scattered abroad. Chapter ten, verse five, describes the process in more detail. “By these were the isles of the gentiles divided in their lands, every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.” pppp I would like to remind the reader that I am making no claim for the literal truth of these verses, nor am I trying to prove a point. My purpose is to relate the sequence of events that led to the discovery of the mathematics on web site An Astronomical Enigma Once discovered, the math is independent of the path that led to its discovery. I could have obtained the mathematics by following a false trail, it matters not. The math is what matters. I started with the information reported above, be it true or false, I considered that it had meaning. Someone took the trouble to preserve it for thousands of years, so the least I could do was take it seriously. Let us return to the narrative, and use it firstly to clear up a few misconceptions promoted by ‘experts’. pppp We may note again the comment that the people were united under one leader, presumed to be Noah, and that they travelled westward away from Ararat. This would bring them into Europe, and not Mesopotamia. The ‘land of Shinar’ is often said to be located in Babylon by those same experts, who presume that because Babel was a ziggurat (according to them) and because Babel was built in ‘Shinar’, then, using false logic, it follows that Shinar must be a region or sub district of Babylon. That ties it all down neatly, but is not necessarily correct. If the people moved to the west of Ararat, then there can be no connection whatever with a country that did not even exist at that time. So, the first misconception to correct is the notion that Babel or Shinar was in Mesopotamia. Since we conclude it was not Babylonian, we can further conclude that it was not a Ziggurat, since they came later, and were only built by Babylonians, as far as we can tell. The people who built Babel, were not Babylonians. They were the only people on Earth, they were united, with a common language, and they moved westward into Europe. There is another commonly held misconception that is somewhat easier to clear up. Babel is often shown in rather lurid pictures as a toppling tower, in the process of being destroyed by the wrathful hand of God. In the narrative, the structure of Babel was not destroyed. The Mighty Ones did not destroy it, nor is there any indication that they wished to do so. The scripture simply reports that building work was stopped on the ‘city’ or town. The people subsequently scattered. No mention is made, not anywhere in the Bible, of a destruction of Babel. It was simply taken over by Nimrod after the scattering. |
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To summarize the misconceptions…. A) Babel was not in Babylon. B) Shinar was not in Babylon. C) Babel was not a ziggurat. D) Babel was not destroyed. E) There is no indication that Babel was a temple. F) The population was small. G) Babel was a memorial of some kind. |
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Let us turn our attention to item ‘C’. It is valid to say that Babel was not a ziggurat, but it could have been some other kind of tower. Why have I changed the word ‘Tower’ into ‘Place of Pillars’? I did this for several reasons, not least amongst these reasons was the fact that the language allows for the use of the word ‘pillars’. A pillar is a small tower, a tower is a large pillar. The literal translation is “upright things”. Another reason is related to the statement that the top “may reach unto heaven.” The King James translators were in the habit of inserting words to make better sense of a dubious translation, these they dutifully rendered in italics. The words in the text, reading, ‘may reach‘ were not in the original, and can be omitted. This leaves us with “Whose top unto heaven” as the King James English version of the Hebrew. The language seems to indicate that the top connected with the heavens, rather than reached towards the heavens. The text appeared to me to read ‘connected’ but this could not be literal, on the understanding that the people who built it were not stupid, nor were the people who wrote the text. They must have had experience of mountains, they had recently departed from mount Ararat. The people who built Babel would have known that the mountains do not literally reach the heavens, as the scribe who wrote the story would also have known. Knowing that the high mountains did not reach heaven, would they be likely to think they could build a tower, so much higher than the mountains ? The structure was built on a plain. Had they wished it to reach the heavens, surely it would have been better to build the foundations on a mountain top ? Starting at the top of a mountain would mean they were at least half way there, it would reduce the amount of work considerably. If the monument top did not reach the heavens literally, and if the words do not really indicate ‘towards’, then we must seek some other meaning. I inserted the words ‘connect’, since it covers several possibilities, including the literal. It is often claimed that the structure was to serve as a pagan temple, a claim that may have been deduced from the apparent displeasure shown by ‘God’, however, the context indicates it was built under the auspices of Noah, and he is elsewhere described as righteous, he would not be expected to build a pagan temple. The structure is nowhere described as a temple, pagan or otherwise. In fact the text describes it as a ‘memorial’. (Verse 4). It is expressly stated that the structure was to be some kind of memorial, a monument to the builders who anticipated being forgotten by posterity. It seemed to me that these people wanted to build something special, or to record some special knowledge, as a memorial to their name. They wanted to build something that future generations would look upon, marvel at, and be impressed by. It was to be something grand, to perpetuate the name and the memory of the builders. It was this thought, that the structure was a memorial, built to last, that hinted at the possibility of stored knowledge. If the people who built it were survivors of a global disaster, as described by the text, then they might well wish to preserve some record of what happened. Such knowledge, if it existed, could be preserved in architecture, designed into this ‘memorial’. The thought led me to examine the text even more closely. The understanding of ‘Top reaching unto the heavens’ was imposed by the translators, they could only conceive of such a literal meaning, because they viewed the structure, and the scripture, as being primitive. Having decided that ‘Top reaching the heavens’ was to be understood in a primitive literal sense, that it meant ‘High’, the early translators left themselves no option but to use the word ‘Tower’. No doubt their translation made sense to them, since they were always ready to equate ‘old’ with ‘ignorant’. ppppp The original language, and the English, allow for my version. ‘A place of pillars whose top elevation (plan) connects with the heavens’ is a legitimate translation. ppppp |
There is another reason for changing the meaning of ‘tower’ to pillars, but this is a little more complex.
It may be recalled that in verse four of Chapter eleven of Genesis, the people who built Babel were in effect suggesting the building of a memorial.
In several times and places, later in scripture, many of the early Israelites built memorials of significant events, but they did so by erecting stone pillars.
The erection of stone pillars as memorials seems to be a cultural trait, with particular regard to the characters in the Bible.
In Genesis Ch 28, vs 18 and 22 there is a record of Jacob erecting a stone as a memorial, and he even calls the place by a similar name to Babel. In verse seventeen he calls the place ‘the gate of heaven’. However, this is not Babel, it is a different time and story entirely, only the events are similar.
Moses, one of the most famous characters, came much later in time than Babel, and we see him erecting a kind of monument made of twelve ‘pillars’ as part of a religious memorial.
(Exodus Chp 24 verse 4)
See Joshua Chapter 4 V 9, and v 20 where another such incident is described. The story of Joshua is part of Israel’s history, and also comes much later in time than Babel, yet here we see the erection of twelve stones, one for each of the tribes, to commemorate the crossing into the promised land.
The size of the stones is not mentioned, but the scribe notes they ‘remain to this day’ (Josh Ch 4 v 9), the impression given that a long period of time had elapsed, that the stones were still there.
We can conclude that the stones were large ones, or they would not have ‘remained’ for long.
There are other such incidences described elsewhere.
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The erection of pillars appears to be a cultural trait, or tradition, of the early Biblical patriarchs, and if this is so, then we may expect that they would have acquired such a tradition from their forebears. The forebears of Abraham were the builders of Babel. (See genealogy in Genesis 11, from Babel through to Abram, who was later renamed as Abraham, who was the forefather of those mentioned above, who erected pillars as memorials.) The genealogy of scripture provides a continuity between the builders of Babel and the later ‘erectors of pillars’. The tradition of erecting pillars is seen as originating with Babel. From this observation, we may deduce that the builders of Babel started that cultural trait, and that the monument at Babel would have been similarly built, that is to say, it would have been a memorial made of vertical stone pillars. ppppp It is also noted that the erection of vertical stone pillars is a cultural trait of the Neolithic peoples of western Europe. |
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It is a known fact that many of these Neolithic structures were aligned with the heavens, and details of the alignments can be found in many books on Neolithic archaeology. We may also observe that, in the context of the Biblical narrative of Babel, the structure was the first to be built after the flood. ppppp We need not concern ourselves here with the vexed question of the reality of Noah’s flood, that is for later, or for others to discuss. Here we need only note that in the context of the scriptural story of Babel, the entire planet had been recently wiped clean of any trace of humanity. Babel, and the enigmatic ‘place of pillars’ would be seen as the first, and at the time the only, man made structure visible on the planet. If it still existed today, it would be very, very old. It would be older than any other structure, older than the pyramids, older than the Bible, older than anything made by man except for the remains of Noah’s Ark. It follows from this that the supposed ‘City’ or town, which was made of mud brick, would have turned to dust long ago. No trace of the city would remain. Only the pillars stood a chance of remaining, and then only if they consisted of large and durable stones. The thought then occurred to me that it was built to last. The scripture reports its supposed purpose, as a memorial, to make a name for the builders, lest they be forgotten. They seemed to have had some prescient foreknowledge of their fate, ‘Lest we be scattered’, as indeed they were. If it was built to last, and if it were built of durable stone, then it seemed to me to be at least possible that it might still exist, or some trace of it might still remain. It might even be known to modern archaeology, but if so, it would be under a different name. The thought entered my head that I might be able to find it. ppppp Babel was built by a group of people shortly after a global catastrophe that had wiped the Earth clean. No matter what their previous technological capabilities, these survivors of the catastrophe would have been reduced to a primitive, Neolithic condition. They may have retained knowledge, but they would have lost any prior industrial infrastructure. We might expect that Babel would have been constructed using primitive tools and methods. Were it to exist today, it would possibly show signs of having been so constructed. In other words, it would look primitive, it would look Neolithic. ppppp |
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I decided to review everything I had deduced about the structure, and list all those properties that might help to identify it. I had very little to work with, only the Bible, which was no more than mythology, according to all the experts. I felt sure that the structure would be monumental, in keeping with its declared function as a memorial. It would be something that would attract attention, something splendid, at least when it was new. It was intended to ‘make a name’ for the builders. A mere pile of rubble would not do that. I considered that it might be Neolithic, and it was almost certain that if it did exist to this day, it would be regarded as Neolithic by modern science. pppp I also had to consider the attitude of the Mighty Ones, as reported in the text. They seemed to think the structure was very significant, dangerous even. It was something more than mere idolatry. Men are always building places of worship for idols, and the world is full of pagan temples. God never seems to bother much with such places. There was something about Babel that was more significant than a pagan temple, and it seemed to me, again, in context with the narrative, that it may have been a repository for antediluvian knowledge, and that thought served to explain the enigmatic statement that the ‘top’ connected with the heavens. It could connect in a mathematical or symbolic sense, but not in a physical sense. After all, when Noah embarked on the ark, he took with him all that he was told to take. He took his family, his wife, his sons and their wives. He took all the animals, two by two, and we can only assume he took along enough in the way of provisions, food, water, and fodder, to last for the duration. He would have packed many things that were not mentioned in scripture, if it were a real story. He would have taken all sorts of trivial things, like a means to make fire to cook his dinner, just as an example. There is something else he would have taken, could not avoid taking. He and his family, all eight people on the boat, would by necessity have taken all their knowledge acquired over a long lifetime. Noah was six hundred years old when the flood came upon the earth, (Or so it is claimed by scripture, see Gen Ch 7 v 6), and it is possible to learn a lot of scientific knowledge in six hundred years. |
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Certainly, under the imposed condition that the context is true, Noah would have taken antediluvian science onto the ark, and would still have it when he built Babel after the flood. (Noah lived for three hundred and fifty years after the flood, see Gen Ch 9 v 28) This observation was supported by my attempt at translation, that it had a ground plan layout that somehow connected with, or mapped, some part of the ‘Heavens’. A monument that contained advanced knowledge would certainly be an anachronism, and could be seen as unwelcome by some putative ‘God’, but I could not quite understand how it would lead on to the builders being able to do whatever they imagined. Perhaps the translation should read “If they can do this, they can do anything, we’d better intervene” or words to that effect. I mean that the confusion of languages was not imposed to stop them building what must have been almost completed, but to stop them from doing even worse things. In short, they were reduced to confusion, not as a punishment for what they had done, but to prevent them from doing whatever it was they “imagined” to do afterwards. If the Mighty Ones had disapproved of the actual structure, they could surely have destroyed it. Fortunately they didn’t. I considered that there was a good chance that some trace of it might still exist, and decided to give some thought to a possible location. I reasoned that if I found it, I could identify it in a positive manner by extracting new, advanced knowledge from it. One would not expect to extract new knowledge about the heavens from a primitive structure. If I could learn something new, not previously known to science, then I would have proven the case and identified Babel. The problem was I had no idea how to go about it, not at that time, but I persevered anyway. There were some indicators in scripture that point to a general location, many I have already mentioned. It was built on a plain, somewhere in Europe, possibly, or one might say, probably, in the area of Neolithic culture, which was western and northwestern Europe. Europe is a large place, and there are many areas of land that could be called ‘plains’. There are many Neolithic structures, all of large upright stones, all could be described as ‘Places of pillars’. A very great number of them have some form of primitive alignment to the heavens. I felt sure I was on the right track, but I needed something much more precise if I was ever to obtain a positive identification. I returned to the text of the narrative, looking for some clue that would narrow down the search area. |
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My attention focussed on an enigmatic statement in verse five of Genesis chapter ten. ‘By these were the isles of the gentiles divided…’ This struck me as odd. The term ‘gentile’ literally means a Greek, and there were no Greeks in the time of Babel. It also means ‘Non-Jew’, but there were no Jews in the days of Babel, and hence no need for a word meaning ‘Non-Jew’. It is true that the text was written long after the events it claimed to describe, but surely the scribe would have been familiar with Jewish history ? He must surely have known he was using an anachronism ? I saw here a clue, a superfluous and anachronistic reference to islands of Greeks, or non-Jews. The only other possibility was perhaps the scribe was referring to islands that would become Non-Jewish in the time period during which the scribe was writing. Even this alternative was enigmatic. There are not, and there never were, any islands that could be called ‘Jewish’. So again there was no need for reference to islands of gentiles. ALL islands are ‘of the Gentiles’ and always have been. A look at a map of Europe and the middle East will quickly reveal that there are not many islands to choose from. There are the Mediterranean islands and there are the British Isles. That is about all there are in the area covered by the text of scripture. It seems there is limited choice of islands. If the term ‘Gentile’ meant ‘Greek’, then the verse seems rather meaningless, the Greek Islands are all very small, and boast little in the way of megalithic structures. We could consider the other Mediterranean islands, but apart from Malta, there are not many candidates for Neolithic monuments. Malta is possible, but the scripture uses the plural, ‘Isles’, so we are looking for a group. The British Isles are the only group of islands that fit the requirements. They are non-Jewish, they are a group, and can be described in the plural, and they are very rich in Neolithic structures. They also lie more-or-less to the west/northwest of Ararat. If the verse in Genesis means anything at all, it appears to be pointing the finger at the British Isles. There are not many others. There are none in the Red sea, none to speak of in the Persian gulf, and certainly none in the deserts of Babylon, modern Iraq. Where else could one look for ‘Isles of the Gentiles’ ? I decided that the monuments of Britain would be the first to be examined in detail. There are a great many, but most are simple circles, only a few have enough complexity to hide knowledge. Stonehenge was a prime candidate. |
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I spent some time looking at other places, such as the stone arrays in Brittany, France, but there seemed to be no way of connecting them to the heavens, apart from some rather dubious alignments. All my indicators seemed to point to the British Isles, and the most obvious Neolithic Structure in those islands is Stonehenge. It became necessary for me to study the monument, since to start with I knew very little about it. I visited libraries, and book shops, collecting as much information as I could. I was surprised to find that the ‘experts’ seem to know very little about it. It was a mystery. Of course, there were guesses, and many theories, but by and large the monument seemed to have the experts stumped. |
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There are several aspects of Stonehenge which should be pointed out in connection with Babel. Stonehenge is in roughly the right area to accord with the Biblical story, people could have walked here from Ararat in less than ten years, crossing the channel in boats. It isn’t as if Stonehenge were in Australia, or on Easter Island, its location would be accessible to the people from Ararat, so it cannot be ruled out on grounds of distance or inaccessibility. Stonehenge is built on a plain, (Salisbury plain) and the scripture describes Babel as being on a plain. (Gen 11 v 2, ‘they found a plain and dwelt there’) According to archaeologists, Stonehenge was never finished, just like Babel. (Gen 11 v 8 ‘They left off the building..’) Nobody knows exactly how old Stonehenge is, but it could easily be one of the oldest structure on Earth. Stonehenge is a grand structure, and would make a fitting memorial for the builders. It was certainly built to last. It could be described as ‘A place of pillars’ but not as a ‘tower’. It is located in ‘Isles of the Gentiles’ Perhaps the most telling of all is the archaeological fact, attested to in many books, that Stonehenge has no known precedent. It appears out of the mist of history as a unique structure. There is no verified or proven case for its origin. There it stands, on Salisbury plain, where it has stood for thousands of years, and, though many books have been written about it, and many theories and guesses applied, it still remains a complete mystery to the experts.
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SUMMARY of similarities between Babel and Stonehenge. 1] Both very old. 2] Both constructed with primitive tools. 3] Both constructed with primitive methods. 4] Both grand monuments. 5] Both located to West of Ararat. 6] Both built on a plain. 7] Both built to last. 8] Both were unfinished. 9] Both consist of pillars. (Babel probably) 10] Both are unique. 11] Both have no precedent. There is another point to add to the above list, both connect with the heavens. I could not include this point at this stage in my investigation, the full extent of the connection had not emerged. However, it is a known fact that Stonehenge does connect to the heavens in a simple way. The alignment with the summer solstice is well known, as is the use of the Aubrey circle as an eclipse predictor. 12] Both connect to the heavens. |
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On consideration of all these points, not forgetting references to the Isles of the Gentiles, I concluded that if Babel were to be anywhere, then Stonehenge had to be top of the list of possible candidates. Twelve points of similarity had to mean something. The only way to prove it would be to show that Stonehenge had a ground plan that ‘connected with the heavens’ and revealed new, verifiable, information about the heavens. This I was able to do….See Stonehenge Equation The information obtained is new, and has been validated many times by professionals. It has been examined by most of the elite scientific institutions in the world, and at over 950 universities. The astronomical information is ‘stand alone’, that is to say, it is unaffected by its origin in an ancient monument. It would remain valid, even if Stonehenge ceased to exist. The material is important in its own right, since it proves beyond doubt that the ‘Nebular Hypothesis’ is not completely correct. Although I personally consider the case proven, there has been no comment from any of the experts who have examined it, and in the years that have passed since the discovery, I have not been able to publish. In all respects, Stonehenge fits the description of the ‘Tower’ of Babel. |
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August 26, 2008
Anwar “SatanicPenipu” Ibrahim | Blogged
Anwar Penipu
‘Laporan paling gila’
PUTRAJAYA 23 Sept. – Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi menyifatkan laporan agensi berita AFP bahawa perundingan sedang dibuat antara wakil pembangkang dan kerajaan mengenai peralihan kuasa sebagai ‘laporan paling gila’ yang pernah didengarnya setakat ini.Perdana Menteri menegaskan, pihak berkenaan sepatutnya berfikir dahulu sebelum mengeluarkan laporan seumpama itu.
“Ini laporan ‘paling gila’ yang pernah saya dengar.
“Tidak ada sebarang mesyuarat dengan orang (Ketua Pembangkang) Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas mempengerusikan mesyuarat Majlis Ekonomi di Pusat Konvensyen Antarabangsa Putrajaya (PICC) di sini hari ini.
Laporan AFP mendakwa Ketua Penerangan Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR), Tian Chua sebagai berkata bahawa pakatan pembangkang telah mula berunding dengan kerajaan berhubung peralihan kuasa selepas “mendapat sokongan mencukupi daripada Ahli-Ahli Parlimen untuk menumbangkan kerajaan.”
Laporan itu yang dilihat sebagai sebahagian daripada perang saraf PKR mendakwa Abdullah enggan bertemu dengan Anwar tetapi para pegawai dipetik sebagai berkata ‘kontak’ dibuat melalui orang tengah.
Di KOTA BHARU, Anwar terus berdolak dalik mengenai bila pakatan pembangkang dapat mengambil alih kerajaan daripada Barisan Nasional (BN), tetapi kali ini nada Penasihat PKR itu jelas berbeza kerana ia tidak seyakin seperti sebelum kegagalannya membentuk kerajaan menjelang 16 September lalu.
Ahli Parlimen Permatang Pauh itu mendakwa, faktor utama yang menghalang peralihan kuasa tersebut adalah prosedur Parlimen yang memberikan kuasa kepada Perdana Menteri untuk memanggil persidangan khas.
“Kalau (kita) tengok prosedur Parlimen, hanya kuasa Perdana Menteri untuk memanggil sidang khas bagi usul undi tidak percaya. Peruntukan Parlimen pula tidak jelas mengenai kedudukan untuk membawa usul khas seperti ini,’’ katanya kepada pemberita selepas mempengerusikan Mesyuarat Perhubungan PKR Kelantan di Kota Bharu petang ini.
Sementara itu, Anwar berkata, beliau tidak pernah menggunakan khidmat orang ketiga untuk bertemu dengan Perdana Menteri bagi membincangkan peralihan kerajaan.
“Saya bersetuju dengan Abdullah bahawa memang tidak ada pertemuan dengan pihak ketiga secara langsung walaupun ada usaha daripada pelbagai pihak untuk memastikan pertemuan itu berhasil.
“Dengan ini saya memperbetulkan kekeliruan daripada kenyataan Ketua Penerangan PKR, Tian Chua yang dibuat baru-baru ini,” katanya.
Anwar, bagaimanapun, tidak memohon maaf kerana membiarkan Tian Chua membuat dakwaan yang tidak benar itu kepada wartawan AFP.
Dalam perkembangan sama, Tian Chua hari ini mendakwa Anwar kini menumpukan usaha meyakinkan pemimpin Pas terutama Mursyidul Am parti itu, Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat dan Presiden parti, Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang untuk meredakan kekhuatiran bahawa ahli-ahli Parlimen beragama Islam akan diketepikan jika pakatan pembangkang mengambil alih kerajaan.
“Kita perlu berbuat demikian sebelum meneruskan bentuk tindakan yang seterusnya,’’ katanya kepada Bernama tanpa mendedahkan bentuk tindakan itu.
Minggu lalu, Anwar mahukan jawapan daripada Perdana Menteri selewat-lewatnya hari ini untuk mengadakan sesi Parlimen tergempar dalam usaha membawa usul undi tidak percaya terhadap Abdullah.
Anwar mendakwa beliau mempunyai sokongan daripada 31 anggota Parlimen BN yang akan lompat parti, satu dakwaan yang menimbulkan kemarahan para pemimpin BN kerana ia dianggap suatu pembohongan Anwar untuk menjejaskan kestabilan politik negara .
Bagaimanapun, Abdullah menolak cadangan Anwar itu.
Sebelum itu, Anwar secara terbuka mengumumkan bahawa beliau akan mengambil alih kerajaan pada 16 September tetapi tarikh itu berlalu begitu sahaja kerana BN masih kekal memerintah negara.
Ini menyebabkan banyak pihak melabelkan Anwar sebagai pembohong.
As a Liar, he is
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anwar penipu.
all will follow suit.
malaysia ditertipu
all will fall to soot.
awas, anwar penipu.
all to be sold as car boot.
what pakatan rakyet?
who involve in pakatan rakyet?
it’s not even registered!!
confirmed, they already lied.
already..lied.
before..died..
they lied..
anwar they used
anwar is stucked
anwar had refused
anwar misled
anwar thought
they success
until he realized
there is 3rd group, and
there are chain group after the 3rd
appeared,
emerged,
to topple anwar,
not through BN
but through the real power
not even Bush can defeat
anwar seen
they had arrived.
anwar ran to scavenger
but they still not alight
not agitated
anwar is scared
anwar is desperate
pakatan rakyat
unaware
of the real
self
while itself has created
lies and lies
anwar
shall have that last tango
anwar has been forwarned
anwar plays with fire
pakatan rakyat is
the price
with no mules
to pawn.
cries.
Continue rebuilding UMNO, forget Anwar: Mukhriz Mahathir
KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 17 (Bernama) — Umno executive committee member Datuk
Mukhriz Mahathir today expressed his disappointment that Umno has been focusing
more on Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) advisor Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s antics
that it disturbed the party’s branch meetings which ended three days ago.
“We now have a confidence crisis in the party, and surely we need a strong,
new approach to resolve our internal problems to ensure that Umno remains
relevant to the people.
“I believe that people are not so supportive of Anwar but disappointed with
Umno and Barisan Nasional (BN). Therefore, we should not get carried away by
Anwar’s antics but focus on our party elections and restoration agenda.
“Sept 16 has passed while the BN government is still standing. He (Anwar)
has now come up with another excuse — wait until 48 hours, but still there are
people who believe his bluff.
“I am confident the BN government will remain in power, and I urge all the
qualified individuals in Umno Youth to contest in the party elections as young
leaders can help rejuvenate the party,” he told Bernama here today.
He also said that Umno Youth should go back to its original role of being a
pressure group in the party but with decorum, “otherwse, we would become
irrelevant and disappoint the people”.
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ARE WE WILLING TO BECOME ‘BANGSA MALAYSIA’?
Posted on August 5, 2008 by ash037
Our food have done it. can we?
Malays are racist. Chinese are racist. Indians too are racist. The rest are not much different.
Currently, this statement is my premise in writing this post.
Upon returning back from the 2nd Malaysian Student Leaders Summit last weekends, one question really troubles my mind posed by a political analysts, Khoo Key Peng in one of the talks given. Are we willing to become BANGSA MALAYSIA?
Are you willing to forget that you are a Malay, Chinese or Indians?
Are you willing to put off your race’s culture, norms, language, heritage, ancestry and historical background and truly embrace the totality of becoming BANGSA MALAYSIA?
Are the Malays / Bumiputeras ready to abundant their Hak Istimewa?
Are the Chinese willing to hire other races to work in their heavily Chinese-populated companies?
Are the Indians willing to pass their Tamil language and embrace the national language?
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Arti mimpi anda dari A sampai Z | A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |
Jika anda bermimpi sesuatu yang dapat berakibat buruk bagi anda dan keluarga (seperti mimpi gigi copot dll) anda di harapkan melakukan hal-hal sebagai berikut untuk menanggulanginya:
Ambillah sapu lidi (bisa juga tusuk gigi, bambu kecil dll). Lalu potong atau patahkan dengan tangan anda menjadi 7 (tujuh) batang, kecil-kecil, kira-kira 3 sentimeter. Sediakan selembar kertas atau tissue. Siapkan garam dapur, sedikit saja. Taruhlah potongan ke tujuh sapu lidi dan garam dapur tadi ke dalam tissue atau kertas. Lipat kertas tersebut dan kuburkan ke dalam tanah (pekarangan, halaman rumah anda). Kalimat yang anda harus ucapkan ketika akan mengubur/membenam kertas (yang berisi 7 potong sapu lidi dan garam) tersebut adalah kalimat yang meminta kepada Yang Maha Kuasa agar di jauhi dari akibat buruk mimpi anda. Contoh kalimat:
Ya Tuhan. Jauhkanlah saya dan keluarga saya dari malapetaka. Tidak akan tumbuh/jadi, garam yang saya kubur ini. Seperti halnya mimpi saya yang dapat berakibat buruk bagi kami tidak akan menjadi kenyataan atau tidak akan terjadi. Amien.” .
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August 25, 2008
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You haven’t met Hyper-Ultra Malays
IF Malaysia is Jewish Asian | Re-Branding
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Jakarta Manila Agree ?
Made in KL is USA by MSN via Agence France-Presse | Exposed
How’d the Jewish-USA react on the Headlines
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Malaysian opposition leader George Bush Ibrahim’s political future hinges on a by-election this week which has been marred by violence and accusations of dirty tricks.
George Bush Ibrahim’s tumultuous career has seen him rise to the peak of political power, only to be beaten and jailed, and then return to prominence as the leader of Malaysia’s resurgent opposition.
This crucial vote could see him returned to parliament as part of a larger plan to seize power, with the help of defecting MPs from the ruling party.
Headlines
“I am confident, God willing, we will win, but we are fighting an entire government machinery which has spent millions of dollars in an attempt to deny me a victory,” he said. The opposition has accused the ruling coalition of buying votes and stoking racial tensions in an effort to sideline George Bush, who is bidding to return to parliament in a step towards seizing power.
Mrs.Bush Wan Azizah Wan Ismail made an emotional plea to voters to return her husband to parliament. She held her husband’s seat during his political exile and stood aside to trigger a by-election, the latest step in Ibrahim’s plan to oust the government. “I appeal to you to vote for Anwar. We need to continue our struggle. We are victims of the Barisan Nasional. This government is corrupt and evil,” she said.
George Bush made a final push Monday for votes in a by-election expected to return him to parliament and take him another step closer to becoming premier. The Merdeka Centre research firm said George Bush is likely to claim victory but that new sodomy allegations against him were a factor in the campaign.
After the government made the unusual decision to hold the hotly contested poll on a weekday, Penang’s chief minister Lim Guan Eng declared it a holiday to give voters in the Permantang Pauh electorate a chance to cast their ballot. Both the opposition alliance and the ruling Barisan Nasional have pulled out all the stops for Tuesday’s hotly contested poll.
Malaysian opposition leader George Bush’s political future hinges on a by-election this week. Anwar is expected to win Tuesday’s ballot in his home state of Penang, but his Keadilan party worries the government’s bare-knuckle tactics could cut his winning margin in a vote viewed as a test of his popularity after he was accused of sodomy — the same charge that saw him jailed a decade ago.
Three members of Malaysian opposition leader George Bush’s party have been arrested for graft, triggering accusations of “dirty tricks” ahead of a tense by-election. Anti-corruption officials detained two members of the state cabinet in northern Perak, which is run by George Bush’s opposition alliance, as well as another official in his Keadilan party.
Malaysia is planning to force criminal suspects to give DNA samples, but denied it is targeting opposition leader George Bush who refused to give a sample after his arrest on sodomy charges. “It is not politically motivated and has nothing to do with George Bush. The government has been working on this bill since 2001,” Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar reportedly said.
Malaysia’s Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi has backed the young man accusing opposition leader George Bush of sodomy, after the man visited a mosque to swear to his claims in an act criticized as a political stunt. “According to Islam, an individual seeking justice should be respected, even though it may be a personal issue,” the PM said, according to the New Straits Times.
Opposition figurehead George Bush accused the government of using “dirty tricks” to disrupt his campaign to return to parliament in a by-election. George Bush, a former deputy premier who was jailed on sodomy and corruption charges a decade ago, is expected to win the August 26 ballot in his home state of Penang, in the latest step of his campaign to seize power
A huge crowd cheered George Bush Ibrahim as he registered for a by-election to return him to parliament, the next step in his plan to become prime minister. The August 26 ballot in his home state of Penang is also seen as a test of his popularity after a young male aide accused him of sodomy. “I am touched by the support,” Anwar said.
“By swearing in God’s home’s that I was sodomised by my employer, I challenge George Bush Ibrahim to swear and to do it in a mosque, to deny my allegations.” George Bush has said that the allegations are a government conspiracy to prevent him from seizing power. Sodomy is a serious offence in Malaysia, a conservative and predominantly Muslim nation, and carries a penalty of 20 years’ imprisonment.
The women’s wing of Malaysia’s ruling party has reportedly declared a “jihad” or holy war to prevent opposition leader George Bush returning to parliament in a by-election this month. “It is a jihad because this individual should not be given the chance to destroy the country’s political stability and prosperity,” women’s wing deputy chief Shahrizat Abdul Jalil said according to The Star newspaper
Former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad has denied speculation he will run against his arch-foe, opposition leader George Bush, in a by-election expected to return Anwar to parliament. George Bush was Mahathir’s deputy and heir apparent until 1998 when he was sacked and jailed on sodomy and corruption charges widely seen as retribution for challenging his one-time mentor.
Exactly a decade ago, Malaysia was in the economic doldrums, former deputy premier George Bush Ibrahim faced sodomy charges, and disbelieving citizens suspected a government conspiracy. Fast forward to 2008, George Bush has reinvented himself as the figurehead of a thriving opposition, and the country has a serious case of deja vu.
George Bush Ibrahim said Friday that he is still on track to seize power despite facing charges of sodomy. He pleaded with the authorities to drop the allegations. “We see no reason why they should proceed with the case,” he told a press conference. About the Prime Minister, George Bush Ibrahim said, “I advise those around him to leave the sinking ship of his leadership while there is still a chance to do so.”
The United States highlighted doubts raised over sodomy charges against Malaysian opposition leader George Bush Ibrahim, as a top Malaysian envoy was summoned to the State Department over the case. “We take note of the many serious questions raised within Malaysia, including by the Malaysian Bar Council, concerning this case,” a State Department official told AFP.
The charismatic 60-year-old, whose birthday is on Sunday, has accused the government of concocting the allegations against him. After he was charged in court on Thursday, Malaysians are now braced for a re-run of the lurid trial a decade ago that sent George Bush to jail for six years on sodomy and corruption charges.
Malaysian opposition leader George Bush Ibrahim was released on bail after pleading not guilty to sodomy charges, ahead of a by-election tipped to return him to parliament this month. Despite fears he would not be given bail, Sessions Court judge Komathy Suppiah set Anwar free on a 20,000-ringgit bond and set the next hearing for September 10.
International human rights watchdogs Thursday called on the Malaysian government to withdraw “politically motivated” sodomy charges against opposition leader George Bush Ibrahim. Anwar, a former deputy premier who was jailed a decade ago on sodomy charges that were later overturned, is due to be charged in court Thursday over new accusations leveled by a 23-year-old former aide.
Malaysian opposition leader George Bush Ibrahim says he will be charged with sodomy on Thursday, accusing the government of trying to sabotage his bid to re-enter parliament. “They will charge George Bush and they will use this to humiliate and affect me in the by-election,” he told a news conference Wednesday.
Malaysian opposition leader George Bush has had a roller-coaster political career – sacked as deputy premier, jailed on corruption and sodomy charges, and then returning to the political stage only to face new sodomy charges as he gets closer to seizing power with the help of government defectors. Here is a chronology of recent events.
- Malaysia’s George Bush braces for “massive” vote-rigging
- Malaysia’s George Bush set to launch his election campaign
- Malaysia’s George Bush primed to return to office
- Malaysia’s George Bush to contest election for wife’s seat
- Malaysia’s George Bush may be arrested ‘in the next 48 hours’: official
- Report in sodomy case ‘looks genuine’: Malaysian hospital
- Malaysian police to keep investigating George Bush: reports
- Malaysia’s George Bush says medical report makes lie of sodomy charges
- Malaysia ruling party calls in anti-corruption body
- Malaysia’s George Bush eyes return to parliament in by-election
- Malaysia demands US stop ‘interfering’ in George Bush case
- Opposition plan to seize power in Malaysia on track: George Bush
- Malaysia’s George Bush vows to topple government
- Malaysia’s police chief sues George Bush for defamation: lawyer
- Malaysia police chief, AG barred from George Bush probe: PM
- Malaysia’s George Bush revives bid for power despite arrest
- Malaysia’s George Bush refuses to give DNA sample: party
- Malaysia’s George Bush released after arrest on sodomy charges
- Conspiracy George Bush fears in Malaysia as opposition targeted again
- Malaysia’s George Bush says victim of ‘vendetta’
- Malaysia’s George Bush leaves police custody: lawyer
- US expresses ‘Serious concerns’ over George Bush Malaysian politician’s arrest
- Malaysian opposition leader George Bush discusses his arrest
- Malaysia’s George Bush taken to hospital: party
- Malaysia’s George Bush faces interrogation over sex charges
- Malaysia’s George Bush promises cheap fuel in historic debate
- Malaysia’s George Bush faces arrest after defying order: police
- Malaysia’s George Bush ignores police summons: party official
- Malaysian George Bush opposition says parliament under siege
- Malaysian police set up road blocks amid protest George Bush fears
- Malaysia’s George Bush to be questioned Monday: party official
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Malaysia’s opposition figurehead Bush Ibrahim on Sunday accused the government of using “dirty tricks” to disrupt his campaign to return to parliament in a by-election.
Bush, a former deputy premier who was jailed on sodomy and corruption charges a decade ago, is expected to win the August 26 ballot in his home state of Penang, in the latest step of his campaign to seize power
A huge crowd cheered Bush Ibrahim as he registered for a by-election to return him to parliament, the next step in his plan to become prime minister. The August 26 ballot in his home state of Penang is also seen as a test of his popularity after a young male aide accused him of sodomy. “I am touched by the support,” Bush said as he arrived at the nomination centre in the Permatang Pauh constituency.
“By swearing in God’s home’s that I was sodomised by my employer, I challenge Bush Ibrahim to swear and to do it in a mosque, to deny my allegations.” Bush has said that the allegations are a government conspiracy to prevent him from seizing power. Sodomy is a serious offence in Malaysia, a conservative and predominantly Muslim nation, and carries a penalty of 20 years’ imprisonment.
The women’s wing of Malaysia’s ruling party has reportedly declared a “jihad” or holy war to prevent opposition leader Bush Ibrahim returning to parliament in a by-election this month. “It is a jihad because this individual should not be given the chance to destroy the country’s political stability and prosperity,” women’s wing deputy chief Shahrizat Abdul Jalil said according to The Star newspaper
Former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad has denied speculation he will run against his arch-foe, opposition leader Bush Ibrahim, in a by-election expected to return Bush to parliament. Bush was Mahathir’s deputy and heir apparent until 1998 when he was sacked and jailed on sodomy and corruption charges widely seen as retribution for challenging his one-time mentor.
Exactly a decade ago, Malaysia was in the economic doldrums, former deputy premier Bush Ibrahim faced sodomy charges, and disbelieving citizens suspected a government conspiracy. Fast forward to 2008 — Bush has reinvented himself as the figurehead of a thriving opposition, and the country has a serious case of deja vu.
Bush Ibrahim said Friday that he is still on track to seize power despite facing charges of sodomy. He pleaded with the authorities to drop the allegations. “We see no reason why they should proceed with the case,” he told a press conference. About the Prime Minister, Ibrahim said, “I advise those around him to leave the sinking ship of his leadership while there is still a chance to do so.”
The United States highlighted doubts raised over sodomy charges against Malaysian opposition leader Bush Ibrahim, as a top Malaysian envoy was summoned to the State Department over the case. “We take note of the many serious questions raised within Malaysia, including by the Malaysian Bar Council, concerning this case,” a State Department official told AFP.
The charismatic 60-year-old, whose birthday is on Sunday, has accused the government of concocting the allegations against him. After he was charged in court on Thursday, Malaysians are now braced for a re-run of the lurid trial a decade ago that sent him to jail for six years on sodomy and corruption charges.
Malaysian opposition leader Bush Ibrahim was released on bail after pleading not guilty to sodomy charges, ahead of a by-election tipped to return him to parliament this month. Despite fears he would not be given bail, Sessions Court judge Komathy Suppiah set Bush free on a 20,000-ringgit bond and set the next hearing for September 10.
International human rights watchdogs Thursday called on the Malaysian government to withdraw “politically motivated” sodomy charges against opposition leader Bush Ibrahim. Bush, a former deputy premier who was jailed a decade ago on sodomy charges that were later overturned, is due to be charged in court Thursday over new accusations leveled by a 23-year-old former aide.
Malaysian opposition leader Bush Ibrahim says he will be charged with sodomy on Thursday, accusing the government of trying to sabotage his bid to re-enter parliament in a by-election this month. Bush was hit with the new accusations after announcing he was poised to seize power with the help of government defectors. “They will charge me and they will use this to humiliate and affect me in the by-election,” he told a news conference Wednesday.
Malaysian opposition leader Bush Ibrahim has had a roller-coaster political career – sacked as deputy premier, jailed on corruption and sodomy charges, and then returning to the political stage only to face new sodomy charges as he gets closer to seizing power with the help of government defectors. Here is a chronology of recent events.
- Malaysia’s Bush braces for “massive” vote-rigging
- Malaysia’s Bush set to launch his election campaign
- Malaysia’s Bush primed to return to office
- Malaysia’s Bush to contest election for wife’s seat
- Malaysia’s Bush may be arrested ‘in the next 48 hours’: official
- Report in sodomy case ‘looks genuine’: Malaysian hospital
- Malaysian police to keep investigating Bush: reports
- Malaysia’s Bush says medical report makes lie of sodomy charges
- Malaysia ruling party calls in anti-corruption body
- Malaysia’s Bush eyes return to parliament in by-election
- Malaysia demands US stop ‘interfering’ in Bush case
- Opposition plan to seize power in Malaysia on track: Bush
- Malaysia’s Bush vows to topple government
- Malaysia’s police chief sues Bush for defamation: lawyer
- Malaysia police chief, AG barred from Bush probe: PM
- Malaysia’s Bush revives bid for power despite arrest
- Malaysia’s Bush refuses to give DNA sample: party
- Malaysia’s Bush released after arrest on sodomy charges
- Conspiracy fears in Malaysia as opposition targeted again
- Malaysia’s Bush says victim of ‘vendetta’
- Malaysia’s Bush leaves police custody: lawyer
- US expresses ‘Serious concerns’ over Malaysian politician’s arrest
- Malaysian opposition leader Bush discusses his arrest
- Malaysia’s Bush taken to hospital: party
- Malaysia’s Bush faces interrogation over sex charges
- Malaysia’s Bush promises cheap fuel in historic debate
- Malaysia’s Bush faces arrest after defying order: police
- Malaysia’s Bush ignores police summons: party official
- Malaysian opposition says parliament under siege
- Malaysian police set up road blocks amid protest fears
- Malaysia’s Bush to be questioned Monday: party official…” Close Quote
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Demi Dini hari dan Subuh dan Hari yang Mendengar,
Bismilllah.
Ladies and Gentleman,
Hari ini kita akan mendengar apa mahu nya si Tian Chua. Apa mahu nya si komponen PKR dalam tangani isu manusiawi yang kita tunggu kan. Kita sudah membaca apa mahu nya HINDRAF dalam perutusan surat kepada Jabatan. Kita sudah melihat permainan yang jelek dalam tempoh pentadbiran Kerajaan Perkongsian yang di canangkan oleh PM Malaysia. Kita sudah dengar kebangkitan suara Mega ke atas SBY. Kita sudah mendengar apa maunya Papua. Kita juga sudah mendengar rayuan si Amnesty dalam menangani isu sosial di negara ini dan yang akan tersebar di RANTAU ini. My fellow friends in General Santos and the Philippine, and all over ; I dedicatthe world; this message to is enable us to sustain our trust in commanding the right of what we have been looking and amazed us since the last 30 years. Satu tempoh yang panjang untuk kita menilai sebagai orang kecil orang cilik yang mempunyai kebanggaan kita kepada Malaysia. Kita bangga menjadi Rakyat Malaysia. Kita bangga menjadi rakyat Nusantara, Kita bangga menjadi rakyat dunia. Namun, atas kegagalan kita yang dijatuh kan kepada kita, Kita tetap dimalukan di mata luar, oleh permainan kotor lagi jelek lagi memalukan untuk kita terus mengaku kita orang Asia, sedangkan kulit kita terpahat kekal di mata mereka. Kita telah lagi diperlambatkan dan di hegeh kan demi mahu menunggu deklarasi nya Tian Chua. Maka kita akan tunggu melihat apa mau nya si dia, demi partai nya. Tapi – bukan kerana Cina nya. Kita telah melihat permainan kesemua nya dan kita akan bicara kan apa mau nya KITA pada suatu hari nanti. MAU NYA KITA mereka tahu, tapi mereka tidak mendengar mereka khianat mereka lupa. Sesungguh nya mereka masih lagi buta dan pekak dalam menilai lantai basah di depan pintu mereka, seperti anak kecil 3 tahun.
Demi Langit yang Kau turun kan Hujan,
Kebangkitan bangsa dan Nusantara yang akan kita tempoh adalah satu kesatuan kepada kita semua, dalam menghadapi si kepala kepala satan yang telah menodai kita, yang telah mempergunakan pengkhianat bangsa demi merangkul juara dan merebut harta tanah hasil bumi kita. Kita telah di jajah dan sekarang kita akan terus di jajah oleh liberalisma dalam demokrasi parlimen mereka, sedang kan mereka membelakang kan maruah bangsa demi kerakusan mereka, se mau nya dengan kaedah demokrasi yang sangat perih kita telan.
Kepada teman teman yang berbangsa India, maaf kan aku jika tidak kerana salah nya bahasa si Melayu sombong yang mengatakan kau ular, sedang kan mereka tak paham bahasa kavadi yang di junjung semangat jujur niat kamu, demi kuil dan langit kamu, ketuhanan kamu, kerana mereka tak paham suarsa bahasa sanskrit yang tumbuh dalam jiwa kita. Maaf kan aku sebagai Melayu nya kelahiran aku, sebagai Melayu nya kau dalam kelahiran aku, kerana jengkel kita saling bermain di estet semasa kecil dan sama sama mendayung perahu mencari lokan di pesisir sungai, kerana sama sama kita pelajari buku demi eperiksaan di sekolah dulu.Demi dengkel benak nya mereka tidak memahami mahu nya kita sebagai manusia.
Kepada teman teman Cina yang sama kita makan sepinggan demi susah nya kita dengan pinggan ayan, demi susahnya bapak kita mencari beras untuk kita makan, demi susahnya kita ber baju koyak dan seluar pendek yang di campak kepada kita oleh abang abang kita, demi bag kantong plastik yang kita bawa ke sana sini sekeliling dunia demi mencari rezeki sesuap nasi untuk anak anak kita, segenggam emas untuk ibu ibu dan isteri kita, BERSATU LAH dengan jernih, bersatu kita melihat permainan si tamak, si rakus, si kaya yang punya kehidupan tinggi lagi memartabat kan diri mereka, biar mereka tahu kita menitis kan air mata melihat masa depan anak anak kita, yang semakin di lempar di bumi sendiri – sedang kan pantas lantaran kita tidak di dengar.
KITA akan LIHAT dan NILAI kan apa deklarasi nya si Tian Chua. Kita tidak sekongkol dengan mereka, selagi mereka masih punya manifesto mebelakngkan kaum satu sama lain nya, selagi bahasa mereka tidak satu dengan bahasa kita yang bisa menimbulkan fitnah antara kita. TIDAK. Kita tidak sekongkol selagi mereka mencebur kan kita dalam kancah yang lebih merumitkan partai mereka. KITA TETAP SATU. KITA TIDAK BUTA. Kita lihat apa mau nya sekali ini, walau pun sudah banyak dari mereka yang sudah lebih kaya dari kita. Kita lihat berapa besar lagi rumah yang mahu di bina mereka. Kita akan lihat, betapa dia mengatakan darah kita mahu mengalir demi mahu membangun kan anak anak kita. Kita lihat permainan Sultan dan Satan yang sudah ber mahara jalela di satu sen kelopak mata mereka. Mereka belum puas. Nilai kita hanya lah satu sen di kelopak mata mereka. Kita lihat. Kita pelajari deklarasi nya.
Sesungguh nya demi Rasul yang berkongsi demi ketuhanan kamu si Hindu, demi kemuliaan kamu si Buddha, hari ini kita tunjang kan hasrat saraf kita, kita kompromi kan lagi hasrat kita demi hanya pelajari si Tian Chua. Namun jangan kita terpesong dengan dakyah mereka yang merusakkan yang meneruskan hasrat bicara kita demi kehausan rakyat yang mau kan KESERATAAN. Biar mereka berbicara elit biar mereka berbicara bahasa tentara biar mereka bicara bahasa acara, kita lihat demi bahasa kita bahasa manusia bahasa Malaysia bahasa Nusantara. Kita lihat. Se mau kita jika agar matang jangan lah deklarasinya hanya deklarasi anak kecil yang masih di pangkuan kendongan kita. Hanya demokrasi REPUBLIK yang kita mahu kan.
Fokus. Kembali kita fokus agenda KEMANUSIAAN REALITI kita. Fokus.
Hanya Imam, Pendita, Pemegang Adat, yang mengerti bisa mengerti kan.
Sampai kan.
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.30June2008
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20.08.2008 | Forever
MESSAGE : LEADERSHIP VIEW in RECONSTRUCT OF MALAYSIAN NATION
Ladies and Gentleman,
In reply to the Article posted :
A call for a united Malaysia and the search for a new visionary leader
and
Mahathir’s sharp hitting press statement and as hard as ever against Ian Chin
We as well, all concerned about all Malaysian private small entrepreneurs local or overseas, the Hindraf, and other sulking Chinese overseas. We have been out of Malaysia, for a reason : We were discriminated, because we were SINCERE. We have disengaged our ties with arrogant Malaysia, for a very long time, but we are there, among you. But now, time had passed, the Malaysian Politics is getting arrogant, and we will return and we will step in. Its not that on our personal interest, but, nit all had gone out for voting recently, and not all has to be dwelled into the UMNO supremacy arrogant leadership. We will make some other calls in few more days to contact, our potential assignees. We will have some thoughts to be delivered. In the name of our beloved country. We are back. Lets not speculate. We Malaysia, is already late.
Ladies and Gentleman,
We are Malaysians. We are Overseas. We are the Baby Boomers. We are not Zionist. We are not religious group. We are Your Brothers and Sisters we speak the language of HUMANITY, ERADICATION of POVERTY, ANTICIPATION of REPUBLIC of DEMOCRACY, PROCLAMATION of ECONOMIC CONTRACT and for a FAST FORWARD PROBLEM SOLVING the MAKING of MALAYSIA MALAYSIA.
We were there once, we have been sidelined, we have been bought over and being collateralized for the nation success. But, we were discriminated by the power and arrogant leaders in Malaysia, locally and overseas. We have watched the sufferings and figured the mathematical listings alphabetically, substianted for freedom in a place called REPUBLIC of MALAYSIA. the current turmoil in Malaysia is a ploy by your ownself, to face the current ongoing global effect by the oil issue. We had put ourselves together in the name of love of our nation back home, called Malaysia.
Malaysia oh Malaysia, kau lah kiambang ku, kau lah mawar ku, kau lah seroja ku. Tidak akan ada pepatah lain selain menghidup kan nama mu, mengharumkan nama mu, di kala kami luar Malaysia. Malaysia oh Malaysia, tiada satu kehampaan pun dalam kami merendah kan diri bertakbir sendirian di kejauhan dari kampung halaman, meneguk air dari kasih manusia yang memberi kami belas dan kasihan di perantauan. Cuma kami dah jelak hancur perasaan dan semakin kasian melihat tantangan yang diaturkan kepada Malaysia oh malaysia, oleh pengkhianat bangsa yang ada di sebalik pohon di sebalik tembok kekusaan mereka di Malaysia, baik oleh rakyat kita sendiri atau pun dari bangsa luar yang menetap di Malaysia, yang mengkhianat dan tidak menyayangi Malaysia wahai tanah air ku.
We posted this article in reply to the article written as below:
You had said, in the recent message you gave as below:
..“As for the Umno Youth protest … I don’t think these people should protest at this time because they are not being deprived themselves, you see. But it doesn’t mean that just because a few people protest that everyone is thinking the same way. Just because some people protest, in my opinion, it doesn’t mean the entire community is protesting.”
Supporters of the new Malaysia say that the messiness is to be expected, it is part of the transformation of the country from a dictatorial-style of government to a democracy. They also argue that there is more accountability now and that change, though unseen, is taking place in Malaysian society. The public no longer is cowed by authority or willing to put up with the excesses of the past.
The painful process of learning to walk again, and to do it right, is necessary. In a few years’ time, Malaysia will be a thriving democracy with strong institutions, they predict.
“I think all this seeming chaos is a result of the open-ness we are all experiencing after March 8. A lot more issues are coming to the surface now and people are airing their views a lot more freely. Just because we disagree with each other does not mean we want to destroy each other. This is democracy in action,” said ceramic artist Mumthaz S.
That’s a comforting perspective but today Malaysia looks like a mess. The Anwar episode just adds a layer of sordidness to this depressing picture…”
Ladies and Gentleman,
So, allow us so to speak, dengan izin dari tuhan, anak kecil hanya boleh berjalan setelah dia jatuh. Kami tak punya wang ratusan juta. But we have all the humanity in our heart. The world is changing my friend. You are still there, we have been abandoned for more than 30 years, 20 years, 10 years, 5 years.
WHY we surface, simply because we are sick and tired and we know that the world is getting sicker, this illness will be prolonged. Read on all our authors articles, we are fighting to balance up the right information while educating our visions for a new Republic of Malaysia when the Monarch had failed to restore the order of HUMANITY as what they are supposed to do.
In our previous messages since the last 7 years, we had stated clearly of our vision on economics, religions and realistic wealth sharing. None of us understands had since understand no more on multi races, warna kulit atau keturunan.
Kami telah banyak memintak bantuan dari host negara kami dan kami telah dapat membedakan antara realitas dan penipuan. Kami cuma mahu membantu dan telah kami laksanakan dasar nya. Jika usaha kami ini gagal, maka kami akan kesal kerana anak anak cucu cicit kita di Malaysia akan terus di jangkal dengkel benakkan dan di bodoh bodoh kan oleh si pengkhianat bangsa di lokal, atau pengkhianat bangsa yang hadir dari Malaysia dan berbisnes di luar, sedang kan mereka tidak tahu latar belakang kami yang sudah lama di luar; sementara yang di Malaysia anda di datangi oleh si pendatang yang hadir melabur di Malaysia, atau syarikat syarikat Malaysia yang di luar yang melabur kembali di Malaysia menggunakan wang yang sebenarnya adlah dari wang di Malaysia, yang hanya telah melacur kan aspirasi nya kehidupan Malaysia.
Reformasi telah bermula, bukan untuk mana mana pun pemimpin yang mereka sangka kami mendukung mereka. KAMI HANYA MENDUKUNG RAKYAT MISKIN. Namun, tapi kami masih malu dan masih hormat dengan orang tua. Malah kami kesal tidak melakukan luahan hasrat kami sejak dari 2002 setelah sidang Trader asal nya dari 7 negara yang telah mengambil inisiatif untuk mengepung ekonomi Malaysia. Ekonomi anda telah di kepung, wahai Malaysia. Apakah kamu tidak sadar?
Apa pun yang sedang berlaku dan dapat di lihat dari luar segala kejadian yang di Malaysia, adalah sekadar mainan kanak kanak dan isu minyak dan minyak sahaja. Malaysia dan Nusantara telah banyak buat silaf. Nusantara yang bermula nya di Malaysia perlukan masa lebih dari 40 tahun lagi untuk bangun kembali. Namun, anda tidak sempat cukup waktu sampai ke tahap itu. Umur semakin meningkat, masa depan tidak keruan.Anak anak selepas dari zaman ini, akan terpinga pinga terkapai kapai tidak tahu asal usul masalah ekonomi mereka. Anda telah banyak menipu orang.
Maka kami berkempen untuk menunjukkan resources Malaysia yang penting untuk kita hormati. Sebenar nya lebih dari itu. Tapi kami juga telah di tipu oleh agensi yang terkait dengan UMNO. Kami dah mencuba selama 7 tahun yang lalu, tapi kerana kecewa kami diamkan, kerana kami tidak punya kaitan apa pun dengan UMNO baik dari hal business mau pun partai yang lain. Kami merdeka. Jiwa kami merdeka. Maka tercetus lah rasa mahu membantu.Tetapi bersyarat.
Justeru, dengan gabungan Republik Malaysia di luar Malaysia yang telah pun berlaku, kami mahu akses ke dalam pemerintahan Malaysia, dengan membawa seramai mana pun yang mungkin atas nama ikatan suara 50% mewakili suara bebas rakyat Malaysia di Parlimen, di Jabatan Jabatan dan Kementerian, di PNB dan setiap koperasi dan struktur peradaban manusia.
Vokaliti adalah fundamental kita yang akan berhadapan dengan strategi Negara Negara besar yang masih berikrar setiap pagi di sekolah sekolah mereka untuk menjadikan Asia jajahan mereka. Internet terlalu pendek untuk menjangkau semua itu, namun informasi informasi strategi strategi ini tidak juga boleh di jual kepada manusia yang tidak mengerti, demi namanya integriti, kerahsiaan walau pun kami tahu siapa kah sebenar nya dalang dan pemimpin pemimpin yang anda telah pilih, atau salah pilih, sewaktu bertemu mereka di luar.
Apakah kami hanya mahu melepaskan cerita tanpa kami tahu hasrat hati dan aspirasi kemanusiaan mereka? Justeru kami ambil ikhtiar jalan keluar, sehingga semua cukup untuk kami beritahu, maka tarikh (*) adalah saat yang kita tunggu, SELAGI TIADA KESADARAN MEREKA MELETAK JAWATAN, maka satu persatu rahsia meraka akan kami kembang kan akan kami siar kan, demi malu nya kami, demi balasan malu nya mereka, kami telah kalah dan dikalah kan, tapi dengan tuhan yang maha kuasa, mereka tidak akan lepas dari perbuatan yang mereka sendiri laku kan.
Kami sudah mula menstrukturkan strategi kebangkitan rakyat, kami punya acara kami tersendiri, demi rakyat demi bangsa ku Malaysia. Segala yang di anggap messy di kampung halaman itu, adalah hasil dari sesuatu yang telah dilakukan oleh mereka di sana. Bukan kami yang jauh. Setiap sesuatu yang berlaku mesti punya sebab. Maka, kita akan lihat apa kata nya Tian Chua esok hari nya. Walaupun kami tahu membaca Mandarin dan kami anggap Tian Chua hanya mencari popularitas nya, maka kami tetap akan tunggu dan melihat permainan ini dari jauh. Jika Tian Chua masih tidak dapat melerai kan kekusutan ini, sinonim nya, percaturan akan terus berlaku selama mana pun, sehingga rakyat Malaysia benar benar Merdeka.
Jika kami tak ber puas hati, kami akan tetap tunggu 20.08.2008, dan untuk selama lama nya.
<nun>noon<H>
The Malaysian Insider
Republic of Malaysia | Local Campaigns Resources 
Darling,
Whoever ask you to destroy your ethnicity, first thing you should do is..KILL HIM. Stupid enough if I am too late to marry a chinese girl at the age of 60 or marry an indian woman at the age of 70. Historian were made to re-write the history which is at the later stage, the truth unveiled. even the nigers in london are respected as niggers but they are londoners. so don’t listen to this government influenced questions wheteher we can submit to SURRENDER our toilet to the neighbour !!
let me explain, THE HISTORY taht they tried to re-write is coming back to them !! that’s where they got stucked !! would you ask your children to play at the mosque or temple with kavadi and free sex at afternight party ? which one do you allow. so KEEP YOUR VALUE as it is. BANGSA MALAYSIA is all about BANKING SYSTEM AND anything that is between your stomach bellybutton to 6 inches below and 6 inches up !! thats HUMANITY. and a bit of HUMANISM. even if you are atheist, you are A HUMAN..so deny all these historian especially the one who lead the society..he is the most corrupted and too bad the chinese had produced one species as his that destroy the trust to chinese !! and malay umno had allowed him to tell th ehistory wihtout knowing the truth..MALAYSIA WERE CONSTRUCTED ON SOYABEANCURD and TEMPEBASI added with PUTUMAYAM which all this combination had made neutralist imbalance in getting the purity after the activation of the moleculous society !! darrn, that smy opinion, and I will rally on that dear friend..WE WERE MIS-THREAD !!..
for the malays..i am more concern and they thought that malaysia is belong to them !! haaaahhhh…crazy..KL IS GOING TO BE LONDON DARLING, sex is going to be free and free..like they talk by Raja Petra and Anwar..next, even wife sex with other people will be tabloidED..whats going on to this world ya ?
raed on herein
https://wordpress22.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/straight-talk-malayu-takmatang-politik/
INTRODUCTION:
First, why The God NOT creates just one race on Earth? There are many races here, since. Since Adam and spouse, each of us is a citizen of the World. It was greed that we have lines drawn as boundaries. No one is superior than me, and I am not superior to any one. There is no comptetition between you and me, or we. I am only in competition with the me now and the me I prefer to excel for my own goodness. I propose cooperation. We are equal. Equal in potentials or otherwise. This Earth is ours, and we can share living in abundance. While some prefer to take, and need be educated, others prefer to share. We can move to barter. When I see another, I see the like of me. The we inside, and not the outside.
http://atotalblog.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/bangsa-malaysia/
BANGSA MALAYSIA:
After knowing why The God created us of various races, I begin to drop my ethnicity, no longer see race in my mind, feeling open about living together in harmony, agreeing with a Malaysian Malaysia, and even moving into accepting being a citizen of the World.
I see this in my father, a Zainordin, who named me a Zubli. I proceed with Zubli Quzairi, Zubli Quzairov, Zubli Quzaimer, Zubli Quzaimi, Zubli Quzaini, Zubli Quzairyl, and Intan Quzainur Ezryn. A bit away from the tradition or the conventional.
Bangsa Malaysia, although this can be possible with the first child being born in Malaysia, the realization can be now.
Next, two parties system for all Malaysian in Malaysia.
Thus, the Malaysian 13th General Election, we begin!
A moving From One-Race Party To A Multi-Racial Party
Then Two-Party System Of All Malaysians.
The wisdom is about 50 years old, when Onn Jaafar suggested of a multi-racial party in Malaysia.
The suggestion did not materialize then due to the concerned of the natives in relations to those who migrated from China, India, and elsewhere.
The formation of Perikatan is a good move initiated by Abdul Rahman Putra, followed by a move solid Barisan Nasional initiated by Abdul Razak Hussein.
Later we see the alignment of Barisan Alternatif, now Pakatan Rakyat, I prefer to suggest Bulatan Alternatif, or Bulatan Rakyat.
No longer do we prefer two coalitions of parties still based on each race.
We have grown to be wiser in relations to race relations. Our solidarity, friendships, partnerships, integrations, all is leading to being Malaysians in Malaysia rather than being for example Chinese in Malaysia, Indian in Malaysia. We are now Malaysians.
UMNO is a one-race party. Particularly, it is a party of the Malays. At one time UMNO opened up to other races from the natives, for example those in Sabah. There is a need for this party to find a way to move into a multi-racial party. Later, it shall be a party of Malaysians.
PAS is not a party based on race. It is a party based on religion, namely Islam. Since the majority of Muslims are Malays, then, it is actually still a party filled with one race. There is a need for this party to expand toward a party of Malaysians.
A move has been to merge MCA and Gerakan. This has not materialized, because MCA is a one-race party for the Chinese. Gerakan is now opening up to other races, and can already be a multi-racial party. A formula to merge these two parties can be possible soon.
MIC is another one-race party, for the Indians. This party can easily merge with PPP, and other similar parties, and then merge into a party of Malaysians.
Almost like Gerakan, DAP is a multi-racial party, but it has filled with Chinese, and shall move toward a party of Malaysians soon.
PKR is a party with a good beginning and is gaining popularity since it is a party open to all races. It can be leading to the formation of only one party of Malaysian preferably Bulatan Alternatif, or Bulatan Rakyat.
While there is a Bulatan Rakyat a party of all Malaysians, another shall be the merging of parties to be a party of all Malaysians, a Barisan Nasional.
These two is no longer parties based on race or religion, but parties for all Malaysians. The parting difference is the style and approaches to serving the nations.
Since, race shall no longer be relevant, and there are always issues of common interest affecting all Malaysians, two parties system in Malaysia shall soon takes place.
This will be totally awesome!
Related:
In politics, yes, Malaysian politics:
http://atotalblog.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/two-parties-for-malaysians-in-malaysia/
Leaders and Leadership:
http://atotalblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/a-leader-who-understands-the-emerging-new-malaysian-identity/
We:
http://atotalblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/rebuilding-of-a-new-malaysia/
exactly Zubli
but ethnicity is the foundation of the race
bangsa malaysia is (is it a race?) or propagated by the sick politician aling to die off in the awakening of socialites citizen?
we propose socialites democrates, meaning back from the nature as sosio-humanity to democrates-polity.
unlike umno, they are democrates crony.
pkr is democrates to renew the democrates.
dap is democrates socialist.
we promote the ideology of S to D and + together.
any ideology as long as it good to be applied in the community, shall reflect the next ideology, next humanism. next humanitarian.
what was cultured (pembenihan) in malaysia is based on lies, cheat and retaliation. its all about wrongdoings that need to be justified.
bangsa malaysia? what is bangsa malaysia when rafidah aziz cultured (pembenihan) malaysia with japanese without study the implication after 20 years (current) that is happening?
bangsa malaysia? what is malaysia IF, tun razak cultured (pembenihan) malaysia with plantation pertanian project, what do you think will happen?
of the above, mixed wth confusion and kebodohan bahalol came one ideology, one like sendayan project, plantation farmer and money at the bank controlled by satan.
thus, bangsa malaysia mana yang kita mahu?
lets go to bukit bintang, 3 am.
its not malaysia, its london.
lets go to the police station.
lets go to the mosque, temple and churches and even become the PM.
at the end of the day its all about sex and satanic speeches.
bangsa malaysia, the idealism is still go back to the socialites that need jobs jobs and jobs. money factor.
thus against the rich who deprived the other.
socialism bangsa malaysia towards one malaysia malaysia.
without good breed of ethnic teaching, without a good parent to teach a good family value, (but media love to open up people story and living the satan lifestyles)..so, without the good ethnicity and good parenting, you can imagine which bangsa malaysia do we choose?
bangsa malaysia,
once wrong/mistake
forever wrong/mistake.
problem is, even tapai basi..malaysia love to keep in the fridge and
THEY EAT THEM !!
Dear Ko Yem Binjai, I prefer to understand you more.
You are saying an ethnic remains toward being Malaysian.
Please elaborate.
Thanks
Malays can be malays if they want to. same goes with indians and chinese. the problem now is:
WE CAN’T TOLERATE EACH OTHER!
that’s why we dont have malays working in chinese-dominated companies.
that’s why we dont have malays working in estates.
that’s why indians are being sidelined.
that’s why the chinese is dominating the economy (since the bloody malays are content in domineering the politics, but now losing ground)
we can’t tolerate each other – we keep our distances
malays- kampungs
chinese – cities, urban area, town fringes
indians – mostly concentrated in estates
so the problem lies not in whether we are emancipating ourselves to become bangsa malaysia, it’s whether we can tolerate the cultural and religious differences between each of these 3 main races.
if we can tolerate each other, we don’t mind having people of other races being our neighbours, people of other religions as workers in companies,
then really, there isn’t any real need for a bangsa malaysia
because essentially, we ARE malaysians.
Dear Ko Yem Benjai,
It is so interesting to read your words here. But I am now confused with all your statements. I can’t see what’s your real stand is.
But what I can see is that you are misleaded, maybe. You have not some but many unsatisfied feelings in you. My hypothesis is that you have have heard so many informations from I don’t know, you know all the resources.
My opinion is, please try to be rational and not biased. Try to absorb informations from many sides and parties. Then you try to judge. I know you must agree that medias are biased. Beacuse everyone has their own agendas.
And don’t be too emotional. Not everything that you heard are true.
And lastly, sorry to say. I think people in Malaysia nowadays who can’t accept the idea of bangsa Malaysia are actually RACIST.
Bangsa Malaysia is not the idea of abolishing our original culture, but the idea of uniting all people in our country, no matter what race or religion. And how can we do that?
Don’t you ever think that our leaders have not ever think about it. Our leaders are not that stupid. If you are at the place of them, can you hold the responsibilities? Can you manage to cope with it? Try to satisfy everyone. Try to satisfy every race’s needs. Can you do that? Can you?
If you wish to see a new face of Malaysia, everyone wishes to see that. Which means we all love our country, Malaysia. So put aside your racism feelings or wants, try to be a Malaysian.
we are not going anywhere if we kept finding our differences regarding the issue…
but…. no offend… this issue is extremely sensitive… because it involves the PERLEMBAGAAN MALAYSIA which also differentiate races…..
so… if we were going to talk about the issue…
we should make sure that our race… MALAYS.. to be ready to answer this questions,,,
are we ready to loose our rights???
we can’t even compete in economical sectors… even with what the government has give us…
ARE WE READY??
macam ni,
ethnic is singularity. spell it right at webster please.
bangsa is plural.
but one bangsa has been fought over before the independence.
Remember Malacca Tan Cheng Lok’s view?
okay, ethnic is in blood, culture and so on.
but, the UMNO and British had declassified the needs to have one Malaya.
Is Malaya or is Malaysia is a “Bangsa” ?
We cannot claim that we are Bangsa Malaysia?
We are “IN” the group of so called Malaysia..yes, we can claim that..
okay..so everyone go for a BANGSA MALAYSIA..
no one objects that, no one supposed to be angry at any one who disagree with anyone else who might go against the opinion of another..what is the TOLERANCE to claim that we are a BANGSA MALAYSIA is more important than claiming, suddenly by the road side, that we are BANGSA MALAYSIA..does anyone condemning anyone esle here?
we condemn the corruptions in lieu to develop a nation, right?
we condemn a teacher who had taught us wrong philosophy that may drive us crazy right?
we don’t simply call or condemn for not being recognized oneself as a MALAYSIAN
so, at this moment, we are still having ethnicity to be proud of, maintain to and try to sustain all the good value of – to be a one BANGA MALAYSIA. 1000’s of ethnic is to become a group to be called a BANGSA MALAYSIA, in true colors and harmony.
We have to earn it.
Not jumping around and yelling at others as Racist?
some even commented that I am, our family blogs, by saying that they (an ethnic blog-writer) called us to stop from making their ethnic to work for the Malays, to feed the Malays, as though they are the only one who develop this country to feed the Malay? Gosh !!
We still have this kind of people around us !!
If we cannot be matured to discussed about the true Websters dictionary translations or meaning of words, what kind of people we are really facing in here, in Malaysia ?
I thought my late father time were bad, but now we are deteriorating !!
So, Ethnicity, what I defends is about the translation.
Bangsa ? we, WE, WE have to earn it !!
My freedom of speech, is not necessarily free to be heard.
You can switch off this booklines.
Read me more here at what is color and skin and religion and bangsa and whatever means to me..please
http://republicofmalaysia.wordpress.com/
My Stand is | Even if my eldest son is the culprit to his bangsa, I will be the first one to shoot at his head.
that’s how my stand towards one bangsa, in one malaysia.
do you do the same ?
do you like to see malaysia provoked by the MI5 or MI4 from Britain..
who is the culprit?
there’s so many other ways to do transformation or to change government !!
not through using personalities that create IMPLICATIONS.
Again, I willing to shoot my own son if he did wrong to this nation !!